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helloeveryone · Oct 28, 2010, 04:53 PM // 16:53

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Originally Posted by VAge Japie

Why would you want a weapon that is BAD but ''rare'', instead of the weapon that is GOOD but more common?

because it could sell for more? because in PVE inherent mod does not really matter that much but looking good matters. If i want to play a game that is challenging and not graphically attractive, i would play pac-man, completing it is more challenging than holding halls

"old school" to me means uninscri and it is a way of telling potential buyer that is not inscri+slightly harder to drop as 15^50 that might cost you a little more plats

carnage-runner · Oct 28, 2010, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by helloeveryone

because it could sell for more? because in PVE inherent mod does not really matter that much but looking good matters. If i want to play a game that is challenging and not graphically attractive, i would play pac-man, completing it is more challenging than holding halls

"old school" to me means uninscri and it is a way of telling potential buyer that is not inscri+slightly harder to drop as 15^50 that might cost you a little more plats

What's the opposite of inscribable? not inscribable. What is the suffix that you would use? "un" uninscribable. If something is not believable you say it is unbelievable...

obastable · Oct 28, 2010, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by carnage-runner

What's the opposite of inscribable? not inscribable. What is the suffix that you would use? "un" uninscribable. If something is not believable you say it is unbelievable...

The difference here is that unbelievable is a word whereas uninscribable is not, nor is inscribable, so if they're going to make up words they can call it whatever they want. Personally, I like the sound of "craplible" because that's what inscription slots are ... Crap.

Raven Wing · Oct 29, 2010, 12:29 AM // 00:29

The uninscribable versions with inherited mod came first. Then came the inscribable ones. That´s why I think of it as oldschool style. Today you can have brand new food, clothing etc etc that´s made in oldfashioned style and as such is different to modern style versions of the same things. Same with weapons and items in GW. They can have dropped today and still be in the old style. The prenerfed items mentioned here I would rather call genuine antiques or something like that.

sixdartbart · Oct 31, 2010, 09:09 PM // 21:09

ok a question for the people saying uniscribed = "oldschool"

would that same logic make this an "oldschool SPEAR" ?

obastable · Oct 31, 2010, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

ok a question for the people saying uniscribed = "oldschool"

would that same logic make this an "oldschool SPEAR" ?

I'd still call it oldschool.

Why?

Simple.

It bears the construction of "original" (prophecies) weapons .... even if that construction may be the result of a bug.

sixdartbart · Nov 01, 2010, 01:34 AM // 01:34

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Originally Posted by obastable

I'd still call it oldschool.

Why?

Simple.

It bears the construction of "original" (prophecies) weapons .... even if that construction may be the result of a bug.

So a weapon that doesn't even exsist in an uninscribable model and doesn't drop in Proph or Factions can now be considered "oldschool".

interesting

I will agree with one point.

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Originally Posted by obastable

Simple.

o m g pizowned · Nov 01, 2010, 03:07 AM // 03:07

you all are confusing no longer dropping with oldschool.
something no longer dropping is nerfed 'imo'

^ i'm enjoying people getting mad about this, you can call it whatever you want, there is no correct answer lol

Avatar Exico · Nov 05, 2010, 06:39 AM // 06:39

Oldschool I would say, is double neg shields. Magmas shield -2/-3 awhile hexed be consider oldschool, one is that Double negative shields don't drop anymore and depends on skin of item. Don't see many perfect Crude Shields much anymore.

Cleavage · Nov 05, 2010, 07:49 AM // 07:49

Im inclined to agree with Joe (omg pizoned) , sorry Chris.

I would also agree with sixgunbart about the 15% inherent Spear and would consider it old school because "inherent" is old school while "inscribable" is new.

I cant wait till all the nice Mausoleum items become household knowledge. Anything perfect from there can be considered extremely rare.

Rushin Roulette · Nov 05, 2010, 08:06 AM // 08:06

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

ok a question for the people saying uniscribed = "oldschool"

would that same logic make this an "oldschool SPEAR" ?

Funnily enought I would actually call that and agree with people describing it as Oldschool.... not because it has an inherrent mod and its 15^Enchant (or even if it had a 15^50 mod), but because it does not drop any more (I wouldnt think the 2011 quests would allow these types of things to drop. Anet would probably change the code by then).

I see nerfed as an undercategory to oldschool.

For me personally;

oldschool = everything that can not drop any more no matter how old or new it may be (r8 weapons and partially r8 offhands for example)

Nerfed = oldschool stuff for which the code has been changed (ie. double reduction shields, 10/10 staffs, max r7 weapons and offhands etc.)

If Anet suddenly decided to stop BDS or VS drops, then the existing ones would immediately change to the Oldschool category for me even though they are inscribable.

tghoodoo · Nov 05, 2010, 08:33 AM // 08:33

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Originally Posted by obastable

I'd still call it oldschool.

Why?

Simple.

It bears the construction of "original" (prophecies) weapons .... even if that construction may be the result of a bug.

Aye. if i seen That posted it would grab my attention as it being that an oldschool spear Was impossible until halloween 2010. old school vs. unisc. vs. inherent is all a matter of Word Association. u can't get over the way it Was whenever the time yur choosing to exist in... thats too bad. this is the market its changing. u dont wanna change(?), it doesn't mean that it will not change with u

Pleikki · Nov 05, 2010, 01:27 PM // 13:27

Ok this came to my mind About the oldschool situation.. Would you ppl call Wintergreen Weapons oldschool or nerfed? Well personally i never seen anyone use either of those for em, But techically its oldschool, and it rly wasnt nerf it was just one time change get those weapons in 2006..

o m g pizowned · Nov 05, 2010, 07:37 PM // 19:37

wintergreen weapon, to me = inscription, so not oldschool. i guess you could consider it 'nerfed' but it really wasn't taken out of the game. they weren't something that dropped or were available to everyone

Yawgmoth · Nov 05, 2010, 10:26 PM // 22:26

Personally I always liked to call the uninscribable weapons *Original*, because that's exactly how they feel, as opposed to lame do-it-yourself clones. This term would also fit the newly found drops in the Mausoleum. But that word never caught up.

So we're left with the "oldschool" word, which for me means "the way they used to be in the good old days" - it's NOT just the items that cannot drop anymore - those need another word, like in some cases nerfed (the grand req. nerf, unconditionals nerf, dual reduction shield nerf, staves "nerf"), or limited like wintergreens or ) but the problem with "oldschool" is it's really really strange way to call a Scythe that dropped in the Mausoleum.

superraptors · Nov 08, 2010, 04:37 AM // 04:37

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

ok a question for the people saying uniscribed = "oldschool"

would that same logic make this an "oldschool SPEAR" ?

lol wow that looks amazing

Hobbs · Nov 23, 2010, 08:59 PM // 20:59

I'd agree with the camp that says weapons that don't drop anymore are "nerfed" or "prenerf" while weapons that drop in the style of the older games are Old School.

I mean, when you talk about "Old School" fashion you talk about clothes that were around in the old days. Some of these clothes are still manufactured but the style is still "Old School".

Kabong · Nov 23, 2010, 10:50 PM // 22:50

Ya, jeez, Joe is right about everything. Nothing like having the wave of gentlemanly leisure wash over you to instill proper perspective on such pedantic semantic piddlings.

So that I wil have cast an official vote and not get banned:

Inscribable = crap, no matter when or where it dropped, and regardless of skin. Just crap.
Uninscribable = no inscription hole, no matter when or where it dropped.
Oldschool = item from tyria or cantha with a skin that existed before nightfall and no inscription hole.
Nerfed = can't drop anymore, whether it's inscribable or not.

Obviously this may not be waterproof, but this is an effective framework for describing most items.

None of this matters. If you indulge in uninscribable hammers you understand everything without having it all spoonfed to you. If you dont see the overwhelming beauty of hammers you are unlikely to comprehend.

If you have any questions get an oldschool hammer and go sit under a tree. Gentlemanly leisure will enlighten you.

Jason Xll · Nov 24, 2010, 02:50 AM // 02:50

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Originally Posted by Kabong

Obviously this may not be waterproof, but this is an effective framework for describing most items.

None of this matters. If you indulge in uninscribable hammers you understand everything without having it all spoonfed to you. If you dont see the overwhelming beauty of hammers you are unlikely to comprehend.

If you have any questions get an oldschool hammer and go sit under a tree. Gentlemanly leisure will enlighten you.

Your blasphemies have driven me out of my cyberslumber and I am forced to rectify this crude transgression of gentlemanly values. The fallacies you propagate are in deep conflict with the fundamental principles of the leisurely lifestyle we uphold and cause me physical pain.
Although the vast amalgamation of hammers you have accumulated is rather impressive, if not unparalleled in the entire Guild Wars paradigm, I must say that this plethora of blunt contraptions does not merit such idolisation and is but a mere fraction of the rara aves to be beheld in in the game.
Gentlemanly leisure can only be attained through perseverance and prolonged abstinence from gaming whilst your storage awaits your return with a generous, ectoplasmic embrace, or through incessant loitering in a long-abandoned corner of Tyria such as the Ice Tooth Cave...
Adieu.

RedDog91 · Nov 24, 2010, 11:54 AM // 11:54

Most people in-game categorize uninscribable weapons as old-school. And by most, I mean basically everyone except the few people in this thread who disagrees.

You can't change the way they think, just roll with it. It's just a word that describes an item that doesn't even exist in your real life...using the word won't hurt you.